Talk:Voiced consonant

Voiced sounds

Vowels are usually voiced but the article Voiced redirects to this one which only refers to consonants. Does anyone object if we rename this article to Voiced sounds to include vowels? It doesn't seem worth having a separate article on voiced vowels since the phenomena of voicing includes both. Gailtb 08:51, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Voiced should probably redirect to phonation, which discusses voicing in general. We also might want to merge voiced & voiceless consonants into one article. They could both be merged into phonation, but they're at a much more basic level than that article, so it might be a good idea to keep them separate. kwami 09:14, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Redirection to phonation instead would improve the situation. It is quite a technical article, though. I think the description here of fingers on throat to feel the difference is more useful for a beginner to get a basic idea of the concept rather than the technical description. Would it be very out of place to add it there? Also, I see that Angr has already changed that redirect from phonation. I don't want to get into a war. Another option would be to have an article called "Voicing" with a not too technical description, but not limited to consonants. What do you think is best? Gailtb 18:53, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

This article already mentions vowels, so it's only a matter of naming. I think we could merge both voiced consonant and voiceless consonant into the article voice (phonetics), which is currently a redirect to phonation. kwami 21:18, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I've written a page at voice (phonetics) as you suggested, including the info from voiced consonant and voiceless consonant, and with (for me) important missing info - ie that vowels are typically voiced in all languages, not just English. I didn't know what to do about the inter-wiki links. I've also left these 2 articles in place awaiting confirmation that what I've done it ok. Gailtb 03:22, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Looks good! kwami 06:14, 4 April 2006 (UTC)